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		By: David		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 21:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17705&quot;&gt;Heather&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s a reason people log in to their servers a certain way (using both encryption &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; certificates to validate both sides): it&#039;s a defense against MitM attacks. Attacks like this happen all the time. What was interesting about this one in particular is that it almost has to be local to Rackspace...&#039;cause if it&#039;s not, that&#039;s worse. If Rackspace admitted to doing this sort of thing on their own initiative they&#039;d probably go out of business pretty quickly. So it&#039;d be fun to know exactly what was going on, but I don&#039;t think I ever will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-17842"><p>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17705">Heather</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a reason people log in to their servers a certain way (using both encryption <em>and</em> certificates to validate both sides): it&#8217;s a defense against MitM attacks. Attacks like this happen all the time. What was interesting about this one in particular is that it almost has to be local to Rackspace&#8230;&#8217;cause if it&#8217;s not, that&#8217;s worse. If Rackspace admitted to doing this sort of thing on their own initiative they&#8217;d probably go out of business pretty quickly. So it&#8217;d be fun to know exactly what was going on, but I don&#8217;t think I ever will.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-17842" style="display: none;"><textarea>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17705">Heather</a>.

There's a reason people log in to their servers a certain way (using both encryption <em>and</em> certificates to validate both sides): it's a defense against MitM attacks. Attacks like this happen all the time. What was interesting about this one in particular is that it almost has to be local to Rackspace...'cause if it's not, that's worse. If Rackspace admitted to doing this sort of thing on their own initiative they'd probably go out of business pretty quickly. So it'd be fun to know exactly what was going on, but I don't think I ever will.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17840</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 21:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17705&quot;&gt;Heather&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha. This strikes you as loony? Strikes me as malfeasance by Rackspace or one of their employees...or the federal gov&#039;t. My personal opinion: somebody at Rackspace installed something he/she shouldn&#039;t have, possibly without understanding its implications...I mentioned it...and it got turned off. That&#039;s the most charitable interpretation, and I think it&#039;s probably about right. But the situation could easily be worse than that.

A friend wrote to tell me the state of Alaska &amp; a corporation he worked for had both tried the same sort of thing on users of their networks (only intercepting/decrypting/logging outbound traffic, rather than inbound--and yes, using Blue Coat). And here&#039;s Bruce Schneier on how the NSA has done this very thing, only vs. Google rather than Rackspace: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/new_nsa_leak_sh.html

The stuff I pointed out is business-as-usual for a certain crowd of folks. Rackspace itself failed to react with reasonable concern, which leads me to conclude they know all about it. They also failed to explicitly deny knowledge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-17840"><p>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17705">Heather</a>.</p>
<p>Ha. This strikes you as loony? Strikes me as malfeasance by Rackspace or one of their employees&#8230;or the federal gov&#8217;t. My personal opinion: somebody at Rackspace installed something he/she shouldn&#8217;t have, possibly without understanding its implications&#8230;I mentioned it&#8230;and it got turned off. That&#8217;s the most charitable interpretation, and I think it&#8217;s probably about right. But the situation could easily be worse than that.</p>
<p>A friend wrote to tell me the state of Alaska &#038; a corporation he worked for had both tried the same sort of thing on users of their networks (only intercepting/decrypting/logging outbound traffic, rather than inbound&#8211;and yes, using Blue Coat). And here&#8217;s Bruce Schneier on how the NSA has done this very thing, only vs. Google rather than Rackspace: <a href="https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/new_nsa_leak_sh.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/new_nsa_leak_sh.html</a></p>
<p>The stuff I pointed out is business-as-usual for a certain crowd of folks. Rackspace itself failed to react with reasonable concern, which leads me to conclude they know all about it. They also failed to explicitly deny knowledge.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-17840" style="display: none;"><textarea>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17705">Heather</a>.

Ha. This strikes you as loony? Strikes me as malfeasance by Rackspace or one of their employees...or the federal gov't. My personal opinion: somebody at Rackspace installed something he/she shouldn't have, possibly without understanding its implications...I mentioned it...and it got turned off. That's the most charitable interpretation, and I think it's probably about right. But the situation could easily be worse than that.

A friend wrote to tell me the state of Alaska & a corporation he worked for had both tried the same sort of thing on users of their networks (only intercepting/decrypting/logging outbound traffic, rather than inbound--and yes, using Blue Coat). And here's Bruce Schneier on how the NSA has done this very thing, only vs. Google rather than Rackspace: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09/new_nsa_leak_sh.html

The stuff I pointed out is business-as-usual for a certain crowd of folks. Rackspace itself failed to react with reasonable concern, which leads me to conclude they know all about it. They also failed to explicitly deny knowledge.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Heather		</title>
		<link>https://dhyoung.net/2013/10/12/rackspace-hackery-update/#comment-17705</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 01:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yanno what also popped into my head reading all this?

Someone&#039;s making you look like a loon.

NOT good.

Heather, unencrypted *grin*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-17705"><p>yanno what also popped into my head reading all this?</p>
<p>Someone&#8217;s making you look like a loon.</p>
<p>NOT good.</p>
<p>Heather, unencrypted *grin*</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-17705" style="display: none;"><textarea>yanno what also popped into my head reading all this?

Someone's making you look like a loon.

NOT good.

Heather, unencrypted *grin*</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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