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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-123426&quot;&gt;Oran&lt;/a&gt;.

This is where I&#039;m not ranting about the issues certain companies place in the way of mail from individually-owned and -run mail servers. 

I told Mary Anne you might be the hidden architect of my current doom. She simply sharpened a knife and smiled. And muttered something about &quot;two of them now.&quot; Incidentally, &lt;em&gt;she&#039;ll&lt;/em&gt; be in Anchorage this week. Say hi if you see her!

Sounds like your naps are coming along. I haven&#039;t tried taking any outside the house yet, though I came close today. But we split up the shopping &amp; avoided the issue.

I have most of another post written. Should be up sometime tomorrow. Parts of it are supposed to be funny. No promises, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-123859"><p>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-123426">Oran</a>.</p>
<p>This is where I&#8217;m not ranting about the issues certain companies place in the way of mail from individually-owned and -run mail servers. </p>
<p>I told Mary Anne you might be the hidden architect of my current doom. She simply sharpened a knife and smiled. And muttered something about &#8220;two of them now.&#8221; Incidentally, <em>she&#8217;ll</em> be in Anchorage this week. Say hi if you see her!</p>
<p>Sounds like your naps are coming along. I haven&#8217;t tried taking any outside the house yet, though I came close today. But we split up the shopping &#038; avoided the issue.</p>
<p>I have most of another post written. Should be up sometime tomorrow. Parts of it are supposed to be funny. No promises, though.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-123859" style="display: none;"><textarea>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-123426">Oran</a>.

This is where I'm not ranting about the issues certain companies place in the way of mail from individually-owned and -run mail servers. 

I told Mary Anne you might be the hidden architect of my current doom. She simply sharpened a knife and smiled. And muttered something about "two of them now." Incidentally, <em>she'll</em> be in Anchorage this week. Say hi if you see her!

Sounds like your naps are coming along. I haven't tried taking any outside the house yet, though I came close today. But we split up the shopping & avoided the issue.

I have most of another post written. Should be up sometime tomorrow. Parts of it are supposed to be funny. No promises, though.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: Oran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2014 16:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-122842&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

Seems like the email notifications aren&#039;t working for me.

Yep, I&#039;m responsible for infecting the Rat with this crazy idea.  I may have also idly wondered if it was something you might do. :-)

Yes, I&#039;m beginning to suspect I&#039;ll need to try Uberman to really kick my napping into gear.  I&#039;ve seen a number of folks saying that&#039;s their preferred transition to Everyman.  I still like my theory of a simpler transition, but you know what they say about the difference between theory and practice.

Yesterday the family and I took a day trip to Nome.  I was able to get my morning nap on the plane, but the afternoon nap didn&#039;t seem like it was going to happen until Krista dared me to sleep in the restaurant we were in, and that worked great!  Afterward the Korean staff smiled and asked if I had a good nap.  I&#039;m hoping napping is more culturally acceptable for them like it is in Japan.

It would be cool to compare notes when you&#039;re in Anchorage.  Looking forward to your next updates!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-123426"><p>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-122842">David</a>.</p>
<p>Seems like the email notifications aren&#8217;t working for me.</p>
<p>Yep, I&#8217;m responsible for infecting the Rat with this crazy idea.  I may have also idly wondered if it was something you might do. 🙂</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m beginning to suspect I&#8217;ll need to try Uberman to really kick my napping into gear.  I&#8217;ve seen a number of folks saying that&#8217;s their preferred transition to Everyman.  I still like my theory of a simpler transition, but you know what they say about the difference between theory and practice.</p>
<p>Yesterday the family and I took a day trip to Nome.  I was able to get my morning nap on the plane, but the afternoon nap didn&#8217;t seem like it was going to happen until Krista dared me to sleep in the restaurant we were in, and that worked great!  Afterward the Korean staff smiled and asked if I had a good nap.  I&#8217;m hoping napping is more culturally acceptable for them like it is in Japan.</p>
<p>It would be cool to compare notes when you&#8217;re in Anchorage.  Looking forward to your next updates!</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-123426" style="display: none;"><textarea>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-122842">David</a>.

Seems like the email notifications aren't working for me.

Yep, I'm responsible for infecting the Rat with this crazy idea.  I may have also idly wondered if it was something you might do. :-)

Yes, I'm beginning to suspect I'll need to try Uberman to really kick my napping into gear.  I've seen a number of folks saying that's their preferred transition to Everyman.  I still like my theory of a simpler transition, but you know what they say about the difference between theory and practice.

Yesterday the family and I took a day trip to Nome.  I was able to get my morning nap on the plane, but the afternoon nap didn't seem like it was going to happen until Krista dared me to sleep in the restaurant we were in, and that worked great!  Afterward the Korean staff smiled and asked if I had a good nap.  I'm hoping napping is more culturally acceptable for them like it is in Japan.

It would be cool to compare notes when you're in Anchorage.  Looking forward to your next updates!</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 00:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-122835&quot;&gt;Oran&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re on this here bandwagon? Cool! Maybe we can compare notes later this month, if you&#039;ll be in Anchorage. I&#039;d kinda wondered whether the Rat had mentioned this to you, and if so how you&#039;d reacted. Now I&#039;m curious &#039;bout which way the info-flow flew, &#039;cause it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://dhyoung.net/2014/06/20/to-nap-perchance-to-dream/&quot; title=&quot;To nap, perchance to dream…&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;his fault&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; I even heard of this stuff.

I think E3 would work pretty well for me. So would biphasic sleeping, probably, except for weekends when hibernating for a big chunk of time sounds problematic. It&#039;s family time after all. 

Mostly I just wanted to stay married and live with my family but nevertheless wake up and get alone-time, &#039;cause that&#039;s a very productive zone for me. I only settled on Uberman to start out because I thought it&#039;d &lt;em&gt;force&lt;/em&gt; me to learn to nap reliably, after which I thought I might go to E3 or try something similar. But it turns out I really love my night-time pacing/reading, and expect to love the writing too, so I&#039;ll probably try to stay Ubery. The extra hours are fantastic. 

But it&#039;d be a lot harder if I had an employer to worry about, and coworkers, and all that noise. Just...ick.

Pavlina partially credits his diet for his Uberman-success, but he&#039;s Vegan and I...well, I make pork-liver jerky to ensure I get my vitamins even though I strongly suspect the little buggers are mostly unnecessary. We&#039;re in very different camps. But there may still be something there. Dunno. It&#039;s an interesting notion.

As far as back-sleeping goes, I guess that could be important for napping in strange places. But &quot;back&quot; before I quit eating wheat I had 20+ years&#039; worth of acid reflux issues, and pretty much &lt;em&gt;had&lt;/em&gt; to sleep on my back. Or sitting up, some nights. My bed is propped up by books on one end even though I don&#039;t seem to need it anymore, just &#039;cause it&#039;s become comfortable. And the luxury of being able to lie on my stomach or side when I want to is still kind of a thrill for me.

So I&#039;ve slept in my Bug a time or two on road trips, and actually last week we did a round-trip ferry visit to Haines--I&#039;d just quit caffeine, and took a nap sitting up in the Malaspina&#039;s forward lounge. To nap, lately, I just seem to need to be sleepy and somewhat comfortable. It&#039;s nice.

Though I&#039;m not recommending my method of learning to sleep on my back--but I guess I &lt;em&gt;am&lt;/em&gt; suggesting Uberman as a way to learn to nap reliably. Maybe you could do it on a 3-day weekend or something?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-122842"><p>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-122835">Oran</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re on this here bandwagon? Cool! Maybe we can compare notes later this month, if you&#8217;ll be in Anchorage. I&#8217;d kinda wondered whether the Rat had mentioned this to you, and if so how you&#8217;d reacted. Now I&#8217;m curious &#8217;bout which way the info-flow flew, &#8217;cause it&#8217;s <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/06/20/to-nap-perchance-to-dream/" title="To nap, perchance to dream…" rel="nofollow"><strong>his fault</strong></a> I even heard of this stuff.</p>
<p>I think E3 would work pretty well for me. So would biphasic sleeping, probably, except for weekends when hibernating for a big chunk of time sounds problematic. It&#8217;s family time after all. </p>
<p>Mostly I just wanted to stay married and live with my family but nevertheless wake up and get alone-time, &#8217;cause that&#8217;s a very productive zone for me. I only settled on Uberman to start out because I thought it&#8217;d <em>force</em> me to learn to nap reliably, after which I thought I might go to E3 or try something similar. But it turns out I really love my night-time pacing/reading, and expect to love the writing too, so I&#8217;ll probably try to stay Ubery. The extra hours are fantastic. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;d be a lot harder if I had an employer to worry about, and coworkers, and all that noise. Just&#8230;ick.</p>
<p>Pavlina partially credits his diet for his Uberman-success, but he&#8217;s Vegan and I&#8230;well, I make pork-liver jerky to ensure I get my vitamins even though I strongly suspect the little buggers are mostly unnecessary. We&#8217;re in very different camps. But there may still be something there. Dunno. It&#8217;s an interesting notion.</p>
<p>As far as back-sleeping goes, I guess that could be important for napping in strange places. But &#8220;back&#8221; before I quit eating wheat I had 20+ years&#8217; worth of acid reflux issues, and pretty much <em>had</em> to sleep on my back. Or sitting up, some nights. My bed is propped up by books on one end even though I don&#8217;t seem to need it anymore, just &#8217;cause it&#8217;s become comfortable. And the luxury of being able to lie on my stomach or side when I want to is still kind of a thrill for me.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;ve slept in my Bug a time or two on road trips, and actually last week we did a round-trip ferry visit to Haines&#8211;I&#8217;d just quit caffeine, and took a nap sitting up in the Malaspina&#8217;s forward lounge. To nap, lately, I just seem to need to be sleepy and somewhat comfortable. It&#8217;s nice.</p>
<p>Though I&#8217;m not recommending my method of learning to sleep on my back&#8211;but I guess I <em>am</em> suggesting Uberman as a way to learn to nap reliably. Maybe you could do it on a 3-day weekend or something?</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-122842" style="display: none;"><textarea>In reply to <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/07/03/polyphasic-sleep-declaration-of-success-also-day-four/#comment-122835">Oran</a>.

You're on this here bandwagon? Cool! Maybe we can compare notes later this month, if you'll be in Anchorage. I'd kinda wondered whether the Rat had mentioned this to you, and if so how you'd reacted. Now I'm curious 'bout which way the info-flow flew, 'cause it's <a href="https://dhyoung.net/2014/06/20/to-nap-perchance-to-dream/" title="To nap, perchance to dream…" rel="nofollow"><strong>his fault</strong></a> I even heard of this stuff.

I think E3 would work pretty well for me. So would biphasic sleeping, probably, except for weekends when hibernating for a big chunk of time sounds problematic. It's family time after all. 

Mostly I just wanted to stay married and live with my family but nevertheless wake up and get alone-time, 'cause that's a very productive zone for me. I only settled on Uberman to start out because I thought it'd <em>force</em> me to learn to nap reliably, after which I thought I might go to E3 or try something similar. But it turns out I really love my night-time pacing/reading, and expect to love the writing too, so I'll probably try to stay Ubery. The extra hours are fantastic. 

But it'd be a lot harder if I had an employer to worry about, and coworkers, and all that noise. Just...ick.

Pavlina partially credits his diet for his Uberman-success, but he's Vegan and I...well, I make pork-liver jerky to ensure I get my vitamins even though I strongly suspect the little buggers are mostly unnecessary. We're in very different camps. But there may still be something there. Dunno. It's an interesting notion.

As far as back-sleeping goes, I guess that could be important for napping in strange places. But "back" before I quit eating wheat I had 20+ years' worth of acid reflux issues, and pretty much <em>had</em> to sleep on my back. Or sitting up, some nights. My bed is propped up by books on one end even though I don't seem to need it anymore, just 'cause it's become comfortable. And the luxury of being able to lie on my stomach or side when I want to is still kind of a thrill for me.

So I've slept in my Bug a time or two on road trips, and actually last week we did a round-trip ferry visit to Haines--I'd just quit caffeine, and took a nap sitting up in the Malaspina's forward lounge. To nap, lately, I just seem to need to be sleepy and somewhat comfortable. It's nice.

Though I'm not recommending my method of learning to sleep on my back--but I guess I <em>am</em> suggesting Uberman as a way to learn to nap reliably. Maybe you could do it on a 3-day weekend or something?</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m amazed how well you&#039;re doing so far!  I think you&#039;re right about the advantages of maturity and having a track record of successfully tackling hard things.  And Steve Pavlina&#039;s experience correlates with your observations about diet.

I&#039;m planning to switch to Everyman3 once I start actually sleeping during the naps I&#039;ve been taking for the past few weeks.  I realized I first need to train myself to sleep on my back, so have been going through some minor sleep dep the past few days adjusting.  This will be useful for reliably napping in the car at work.

I&#039;ve been maintaining essentially my ideal Everyman3 schedule, but with two naps instead of three.  When I switch, I&#039;ll just cut my core from 8 down to 3, keeping the starting time the same, and then add a 20-minute nap where the end of my 8-hour core was.

But first, I need to be able to sleep semi-reliably during my naps.  Once I learn that skill I think the adaptation should go relatively smoothly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="ac-section-122835"><p>I&#8217;m amazed how well you&#8217;re doing so far!  I think you&#8217;re right about the advantages of maturity and having a track record of successfully tackling hard things.  And Steve Pavlina&#8217;s experience correlates with your observations about diet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m planning to switch to Everyman3 once I start actually sleeping during the naps I&#8217;ve been taking for the past few weeks.  I realized I first need to train myself to sleep on my back, so have been going through some minor sleep dep the past few days adjusting.  This will be useful for reliably napping in the car at work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been maintaining essentially my ideal Everyman3 schedule, but with two naps instead of three.  When I switch, I&#8217;ll just cut my core from 8 down to 3, keeping the starting time the same, and then add a 20-minute nap where the end of my 8-hour core was.</p>
<p>But first, I need to be able to sleep semi-reliably during my naps.  Once I learn that skill I think the adaptation should go relatively smoothly.</p>
</div><div class="ac-textarea" id="ac-textarea-122835" style="display: none;"><textarea>I'm amazed how well you're doing so far!  I think you're right about the advantages of maturity and having a track record of successfully tackling hard things.  And Steve Pavlina's experience correlates with your observations about diet.

I'm planning to switch to Everyman3 once I start actually sleeping during the naps I've been taking for the past few weeks.  I realized I first need to train myself to sleep on my back, so have been going through some minor sleep dep the past few days adjusting.  This will be useful for reliably napping in the car at work.

I've been maintaining essentially my ideal Everyman3 schedule, but with two naps instead of three.  When I switch, I'll just cut my core from 8 down to 3, keeping the starting time the same, and then add a 20-minute nap where the end of my 8-hour core was.

But first, I need to be able to sleep semi-reliably during my naps.  Once I learn that skill I think the adaptation should go relatively smoothly.</textarea></div>]]></content:encoded>
		
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